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Post by polkadots on Mar 17, 2014 16:05:04 GMT -6
Buh?
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Post by polkadots on Mar 17, 2014 15:52:33 GMT -6
I think it's less of a 'should' and more of a 'could' at the end of the day. MU's different side to him- as a more or less well meaning kid, though with definite traits which can be exploited and can turn you down a dark path (with the deep desire for recognition- something he also has in MI even) was a nice to see even though with so little screen time Randy's development was unfortunately a little thin. (Like he and Mike just drifted apart- I wanted them to argue damnit).
In the end he's Pixar's character and they'll decide the path for him at the end of the day if they revisit the monsters again (and I hope they do!). More or less I'd love to see them develop Randall's character- and between a revenge or a redemption plot the latter interests me more- but overall I'd just be happy for confirmation he's alive and kicking.
As I've mentioned elsewhere though there can be cliches to both. There can be terrible ways to use either idea but there can be good ways too. Revenge after all can be very, very believable especially for Randall and given all that went down. I don't think he'd go for the monster world for just that reason? Because jail and all. But yeah if it fell into his lap or something as an opportunity I could see him trying to take it- at least at first unless something changed in a big way.
But in any case as everyone keeps repeating it would have to be done so with finesse. Randall would have to do something big to redeem himself at the end of the day too no doubt. Plus I would like him to keep that snarky personality.
Mike would distrust Randall in general because wow does he get the short end of the stick that day at first. Sulley himself... well, I think his main source of contention would be with regards what almost happened to Boo rather than himself I feel. Randall would have to show he's no longer a threat and heck maybe put his very life on the line or something to convince the big guy probably. Do something completely and utterly unselfish and even help her out. A good deed does not undo bad ones but well, there we go. That's all I can think of with regards that.
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Post by polkadots on Mar 16, 2014 17:28:19 GMT -6
It's actually embarrassing how good he is at singing. I'd love it if Randall sang or something- like we got Sulley and Mike singing 'If I didn't Have You'.
It will never happen. Ever. But eh it's nice to dream.
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Post by polkadots on Mar 16, 2014 16:48:06 GMT -6
I couldn't join a frat technically since it seems gender segregation would prevent it but if I could say... I guess OK since I'd probably feel the most comfortable there. Heh. Plus Ms Squibbles looks like she'd make things pretty great. I feel if I was having a rough time I could tell her anything and she wouldn't be easily fazed. The rest of the lads are also fun.
While my chosen career path involves a lot of physical work- so I get a lot of exercise that way- I'm not really interested in sports. So JOX is unlikely to work for me.
I'm probably not 'high class' enough for RoR at all- besides it's really the direct opposite of OK I probably couldn't show any kind of weakness to them at all. It wouldn't be the most comfortable living arrangement for me.
I have no clue what the other frats would be like so... OK for me.
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Post by polkadots on Mar 16, 2014 16:32:45 GMT -6
More or less a thread for evidence and praise of Steve Buscemi's excellent singing voice.
Here we go: Broadway Song. From Lou Reed's album. If you were on tumblr a few months back this was pretty much fan-personed over (is that even a word, eh whatever).
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Post by polkadots on Mar 16, 2014 12:23:16 GMT -6
Mike and Randall would probably constantly bicker. They'd like to gain reactions from one another and the other one will usually take the bait.. Sulley would be like a parent constantly reaching for the aspirin.
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Post by polkadots on Mar 16, 2014 12:15:42 GMT -6
I think savefearow's 'moo-moo' wins against my 'moo-cow'- it does seem more likely.
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Post by polkadots on Mar 16, 2014 12:09:35 GMT -6
Well THAT I would be okay with. Obviously Randall isn't going to start out being a nice guy. He's got a lot of crap to work through. And I'd be just fine with him still being a jerk, if just a slightly nicer jerk lol. Oh fully I would be disappointed if they made him some perfect hero, he should totally be like the snarky friend that won't admit that he likes anyone but everyone knows he does. Him and Mike could have some really funny moments I think. Yeah. I think Randall overall should keep his snarky personality even if he's 'redeemed' in any way. Sulley would overall be the closest thing the group would have to a mediator probably but I guess it would take a certain amount of circumstances though for that to happen and he decided to play that role. While Mike holds grudges more, Sulley has cause to be angry too- though he'd probably mostly be for Boo's sake rather than his own.
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Post by polkadots on Mar 16, 2014 12:06:59 GMT -6
Personally I'd just like confirmation that Randall is alive at this stage. Given Boom!comics though whatever they do with him I think they wouldn't confirm him as dead anyway even if the comics aren't full on canon.
I think in terms of revenge Randall would realistically pursue it... if it fell into his lap though. Randall is incredibly spiteful and bitter to start with even before the banishment which would only compound it and he would probably fantasies about it a lot. But I don't think he'd do anything suicidal in order to get it. He's going to keep himself alive first and foremost. If Sulley and Mike ended up in the human world alone with him it could get very ugly (at the very least at first).
I am not opposed to redemption for the guy (hardly, I really like the power trio idea and have for a long time) though it would still be difficult to pull it off too given all that happened. Still if anyone could get it right it would probably be Pixar. If they want to that is.
All in all pretty much all plots are 'cliche' when stripped to their bare bones. Both redemptive and revenge plots- revenge plots more so admittedly (waay more so, there are just more of them at the end of the day), but there can cliches to both and ways they can utterly suck or be done wrong. It's all about how you spin it.
Overall though there was focus on Sulley and Mike's friendship in both movies and I think that should remain somewhat. Granted it was much more important in MU then in MI- but MU added so much to the things we saw in MI too and I'd like a continuation on that. Continue on that and build and expand even more. Mike and Sulley/ Sulley and Boo have the strongest relationships in the monster franchise and both should be expanded on even more if they can. Heck maybe even expand on Mike and Boo's potential friendship/uncle-ship? which really only started at the end of MI.
I'd also kind of like to see if there is backlash to the whole laughter thing though. Like hard ass traditionalists and what not. Plus this was a world built on the idea that emotionally harming human children was perfectly fine- and not just acceptable and something they 'had to do' (though it was important in that area too), but deeply praised: "Scariness is the true measure of a monster". It was considered a great and honourable tradition- to the point that certain families reached very high status because of having so many that are successful in that area.
I think there would be monsters very much against the switch in any case and if the knowledge that human kids aren't actually toxic gets out... there could be very nasty consequences. Granted that might be also too dark, but given the scream extractor plot it's not exactly out there maybe for them to explore (and the fact Waternoose probably at least believed the monster world would come to accept it as what they have to do eventually- or else there would be no point).
Also I'd like to see the CDA again. And Roz even if it's only brief. That is a must.
I would like to see more female characters involved myself- but not an older Boo. Or not too much older anyway.
MU exclusive characters but only as cameos.
Fungus must show up. The little guy has grown on me. Just one scene or something.
There is actually far too many things I want to see and one movie probably wouldn't cover it.
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Post by polkadots on Mar 15, 2014 17:37:45 GMT -6
Moo-cow maybe?
(The horns and the fact she maybe wouldn't know what a bull is yet- I could see Johnny just going "Excuse me?")
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Post by polkadots on Mar 15, 2014 16:57:28 GMT -6
Heeeeey! Glad you could make it! Yes Sulley and his damn bedroom eyes. Keep an eye on this one folks. She's liable to destroy us all. Uh huh. I can almost see that smirk coming on the horizon. You're many things, but innocent isn't one of them. (This is how it starts). ((Stop making me laugh! /chokes))
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Post by polkadots on Mar 15, 2014 15:47:17 GMT -6
(Spoilers for those folks who haven't seen it! I known ingunnsara is planning on seeing it,so look away if you don't want to be spoiled!)
Yes it's been a long time. Still great though you notice especially in book one certain... animation errors- ah well. They did a great story overall though! I pretty much loved almost everyone. I guess I didn't care much for Ozai though in the end- he was a bit generic. (Azulon his grandfather- the Fire Lord who kick started the war- was more interesting, because despite his culture being based on Japan Azulon seemed to espouse 'White Man's burden- esque' bullcrap to justify himself which is kind of interesting as opposed to Ozai I guess whom we didn't know much about save the fact he probably got his wife to kill his dad and all for power- his children and brother Iroh were just much more interesting I suppose. Heh).
Also combustion man was pretty much meh too. But besides that I can't think of any characters I disliked! Almost everyone was interesting.
I started off liking Iroh only at first- he was hilarious- but Aang and Zuko won me over in the Storm and The Blue Spirit. I came to love Aang though through the season one finale though. Because well he saved Zuko and also this damn scene with my favourite (and utterly creepy) one shot character Koh:
(For those not in the know, Aang has to betray no emotion here while asking information or Koh will steal his face away). And it would be really difficult for Aang too considering his personality. (Guess being a monk paid off though!).
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Post by polkadots on Mar 15, 2014 15:33:16 GMT -6
I like writing Sulley, Randall and Mike. But Mike seems to be the easiest one I think? For me anyway.
Also Mi Randall is so wrapped up in bitterness sometimes when I write him it's actually almost draining to write even though I do like it too. Oh man.
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Post by polkadots on Mar 15, 2014 15:30:03 GMT -6
I have to get myself a MI Mike plushie. I have MI Sulley and Randall. I must complete the trio. It's not a want but a need.
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Post by polkadots on Mar 15, 2014 15:26:26 GMT -6
Hellooo! I go by as ingunnsara in tumblr, obsessed with drawing bedroom eyes, that's it, that's what I am all about. Heeeeey! Glad you could make it! Yes Sulley and his damn bedroom eyes. Keep an eye on this one folks. She's liable to destroy us all.
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