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Post by polkadots on Apr 9, 2014 13:00:03 GMT -6
Randall (MI): "Why are you asking such useless questions? Of course I damn well wasn't. I was hardly going to stick around ROR fraternity house to begin with when I'd been kicked out. I keep hearing about it..... but it probably wasn't even -that- great. Wazowski would make a story about the toaster not working dramatic."
Dean Hardscrabble: What do you do in your free time?
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Post by polkadots on Apr 9, 2014 12:47:10 GMT -6
AAAAAAh!! SO HAPPY YOU GUYS LIKED IT *V* some other things including extra shots i want to experiment with a little lame, i havent had much time to do much more because of college ;v; Fleshing out Randy from last week ;u; You draw him way too adorably Jazz: you're going to give people heart attacks.
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Post by polkadots on Apr 9, 2014 12:38:31 GMT -6
with the "female character focus" angle, I was kind of hoping for a female character whose plotline didn't revolve around a male character.Yeeaaah. I actually would like a redemptive Randall thing (though it could be handled well or utterly terribly depending) but I have to agree with this. While supporting characters can be great overall girls do have their own stories to tell and Pixar is really in need of that. It's probably a lot more likely to happen in a new franchise but yeah I'd like it if we got more focus on the girls. Overall I guess the major problem with the monster franchise is that it's just so male heavy as it is. We already had a prequel based on fraternities as previously mentioned. The most important characters which have been previously? They are guys. The two most important characters of them all are well Mike and Sulley themselves. But they could still take a previously established female character and make a story out of that. (And not just as a supportive role) They'd, probably, however, want to have Mike and Sulley as important supportive cast members to keep the franchise the way Pixar wants though. (So instead of a female character supporting their story they support hers- whoever she may be). Boo, Dean Hardscrabble and Roz are really the three most important and thus the three most likely female characters out of any of them who could probably get a film as a main character Roz could have something about the CDA. And have some of the other agents be female too. I could imagine, while perhaps it would be hard to make a movie out of it, the Dean could have a few shorts about the switchover to laughter energy or something to that effect. Older!Boo is a blank slate and would be a tempting character for someone to play around with for that reason. Heck she's a kid who as she gets older will know of the monster world's existence in a way most kids don't and it's definitely possible to make a story from that. older!Boo overall seems the most likely really I guess at the end of the day. Because there's an amount of freedom as well as potential for a storyline. Plus if they want to keep Sulley and Mike in there she is the easiest choice for that. I would like to see more of Celia though. Heck it would be great if she and an older!Boo became close.
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Post by polkadots on Apr 6, 2014 2:00:12 GMT -6
The Cat Returns is also a great film actually yes. I watched it not too long ago. I haven't watched all of the studio's films but I really should.
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Post by polkadots on Apr 6, 2014 1:56:18 GMT -6
Sometimes I kind of feel sorry for her- because it sometimes she just doesn't seem to get it- but I utterly hate how she can treat people sometimes and I have to wonder if it's because she just doesn't care to try to get it. I think I've seen one instance where folks over-reacted to her which weirded me out but overall she tends to be the instigator and it's just really frustrating when assumptions are made by her about people who disagree.
I actually do think Johnny and Randall can have reasons for the things that they do, heck you can even sympathies but... since when did that mean what they did was a-okay? Also just because something may not have been defined as bullying somewhere or at some time in the past doesn't mean they were right to call it 'not bullying'. That's not really how it works.
Heck just because something was defined as being something in the past does not mean the people in the past were well... right. Definitions which could have in fact have been written by people in powerful positions who did those bad things or didn't experience them for themselves.
If someone calls you out on bad behaviour as it is that doesn't automatically mean they're 'just being over-sensitive'.
I think with re: Waternoose and all. Yeah it's open to interpretation but there's nothing really concrete to suggest Randall was going to off Waternoose at that point of time. Waternoose wasn't some mere witness after all.
I think it's definitely something which could happen mind you- him turning on Waternoose in the future if the big crab pushes him way too far in some way but it's not on the cards at that point of time orprobably part of a long term plan if it did. In a very real way he needs Waternoose anyway- as a CEO he's probably going to try and get the law changed so they can use the scream extractor legally some day. That was probably the original plan since otherwise there'd have been little point to the plot. Waternoose provides funding, quite possibly a secure location and promises in the future the efforts will not be in vain thanks to his high end connections with judges or law makers. Randall and Fungus provide the labour as well as a buffer so Waternoose is above immediate suspicion (Roz didn't know after all).
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Post by polkadots on Apr 3, 2014 9:30:20 GMT -6
Oh my goodness Jazz that is both adorable and wonderful. Clever too!
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Post by polkadots on Apr 3, 2014 9:23:22 GMT -6
Leaving out MI and Mu which are my actual favourites.
Finding Nemo I think. Though A Bug's Life is great too. And The Incredibles. And Wall-E. And Brave gets ignored more then it should I feel. Actually I think I've liked all Pixar films in their own way. Cars 2 was a disappointment- while the first Cars had been my least favourite prior to this it was still sweet in it's own way I thought.
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Post by polkadots on Apr 3, 2014 1:23:18 GMT -6
"Leading female roles interest me a lot, but ONLY when they fit into a very narrow category of what I consider acceptable for women." Earlier in another thread, you said that you didn't like a song because it was "too feminine." Literally both the times you have quoted my posts have been in order to tell me that you think femininity is bad. I want more female characters in as huge a variety as possible. You only like female characters if they are a certain way, and all other female characters are automatically not worth your time if they show any weakness or femininity? And when a woman expresses liking something feminine, you, a man, feel the need to hop in and poo-poo on me for that, as if your opinion on women matters more than mine? Congratulations, you're a misogynist. Woah, calm down a bit, look, I'm sorry I offended you, I'm just stating my preference. i don't want anyone to change their opinion just because of what I said, beside, what I said in the other thread does apply to what I'm saying now. The song was about a romantic situation, and that's just not my thing, but I've very happy to hear that have an interest in that, it's what you like, it don't have to be what every one else likes. Please forgive me and don't feel pressured or judged I think overall the thing that has to be understood here is that girl characters rather like guys shouldn't have to always be 'badass' to be worthwhile. Female characters overall just have to be like real people at the end of the day- just like male characters, and there are so many different ways to be a person whatever gender they might be. This can also involve liking traditionally 'feminine' things. Like Mike himself is a serious romantic for one thing. (If that's considered 'feminine' anyway) Men, women, those who belong to neither category can all have their stories to tell and it doesn't necessarily have to involve punching something to be a good one. Some women can want a man or woman or someone in their life: A friend or a partner- and they be a great, multi-layered and interesting character just like with any other desire. The basic premise of a story is that a main character wants something- be it something different or a return to the status quo when something goes wrong, they go through a change themselves as the story progresses, having learned something along the way- whether they get this thing or not. This also happens in Disney films with the Disney princesses. In the end, almost every type of story is technically a cliche. (Almost). It's how you swing it that can make a story good. Pixar itself I think could definitely write a romantic film I think with a female lead for instance if they wanted to. (But not just this, but multiple films with female leads and multiple stories.) Brave is a great film which really grows on me with subsequent viewings. I think people unfairly don't give it an adequate shot sometimes. But that's only one film out of many and really they do need more. Have girls wanting romance, have girls who cry, have girls who perhaps do indeed kick ass or not. Multiple women at the end of the day to tell multiple stories. I think at the end of the day Pixar in producing future original films should definitely write more stories which aren't focused on guys. And there can be multiple stories to tell with women just like with men, because well, we're people after all at the end of the day.
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Post by polkadots on Apr 3, 2014 1:02:00 GMT -6
Personally I'd like it if there could be a female lead myself as much as I'd also love one on Randall too. I do also recall that there was once talk about there being anything up to 7 monsters films. If they managed to do seven films without even one focused on a female lead or having a major character that would be pretty... bad to put it lightly. Heck overall I could think of two they could so off the top of my head. Mike and Sulley seem to be the major focus so far anyway- but it would be nice if they shook things up a bit- kept those boys in but had them as important supporting characters for another monster's story.
I think the major issue with Pixar films in general is that it's sometimes quite the 'boy's club'. And it's major franchises can show that. Toy Story has a major focus on Woody and Buzz and while it introduced Jessie as an important character in the sequel she isn't the main and she isn't that important in TS3. Cars itself is majorly boy heavy (Lightening and Mater- Sally is more important in the first Cars but she's kept utterly away in the sequel) and MI/MU is mostly Mike and Sulley focused.
I love MI and MU but yeah it's very guy heavy and well- we got a movie based on a fraternity after all. It would be good to shift the gender ratios more favourably.
Brave is the only Pixar movie from the top of my head which was focused on women. Pixar... really needs more than that.
There's Boo for one idea in some shape or form and also the CDA for another- have Roz for one thing as a major player. I'd like to see a film which delved more into the CDA in general really. Or something.
Personally I'm also hoping for MU shorts. I'd love one focused on the Dean for example.
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Post by polkadots on Mar 24, 2014 14:43:45 GMT -6
Kung Fu Panda 2 for sure in computer animation. It used to be Megamind but really overall KFP2 is just better overall.I find how they do antagonists to be interesting for one in that franchise. They're ultimately awful in their actions but still feel very real too. They make their own choices certainly.
For more traditional animation I'd actually say the Prince of Egypt. I'm an atheist myself but that movie is honestly gorgeous and heart breaking. The writing is also superb. They added a lot by exploring a potential brotherly relationship between Moses and the Pharoah. Honestly a lot of biblical films forget that the characters should feel real and not utterly flat and dimensionless. We should believe and understand their doubts and fears, not think them silly for it or suffer from hammy acting either. Prince of Egypt does it wonderfully.
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Post by polkadots on Mar 24, 2014 14:37:39 GMT -6
I wouldn't go as far to say that Johnny is a cardboard cut out but the Dean is definitely a far more deep and nuanced character! She's not only the franchise's most fleshed out female character but also the most fleshed out antagonist in the franchise in general as well as the most deep out of the brand new characters MU had to offer.
She's definitely justified in being picky in many ways even if she's flawed- in a way she is one of the first 'filters' of the 'worthy' securing not only the scaring and energy industry but also the security of the monster world- as she stated more or less herself when she rejected Sulley. Mike himself later on in life expects the best out of Sulley too even as his friend. Mike kind of takes no prisoners with his training.
Ultimately while a traditionalist the Dean sees the need for change when necessary as a part of her character arc. She can change herself and even the programme- to recognise monsters like Mike perhaps who while they cannot scare themselves are fantastic with theory and teaching and creating those amazing scarers even if they can't do it. I think Scaring, even in MUs time was hitting probably a rough patch at the time too. I also kind of like to think a part of why she became such a stickler (or well more of one) is because other scaring programmes in the beginnings of the crisis were lowering their standards as a result and she refused to do so. Because in such a crisis if anything standards should be set higher.
The headmistress of hilarity while extra canonical just ultimately fits given how her arc went down- she was already shown as being willing to change the programme in order to make it to the best of its ability when she saw Sulley and Mike and how they worked. Of course being so into Scaring the willingness change to laughter probably 'surprised' some people as well. At least those who didn't know here very well.
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Post by polkadots on Mar 24, 2014 14:22:47 GMT -6
She's cool sure and vastly entertaining to watch. I think I remember there was also once the idea she was in the CDA but the idea was scrapped. (BadgerWolf's oneshot makes it seem awesome though and I wish they'd kept the idea in).
I remember there was once talk of quite a few movies in the works, not just a trilogy. It would be pretty great if say they had a movie focused on the CDA in some way and she was a part of it. Kind of using ideas they had to cut out for time in the first movie would be awesome.
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Post by polkadots on Mar 24, 2014 14:19:49 GMT -6
A picture of a close relative of Johnny's when he's shaved below. (Pro-tip though do NOT look up this character on google image search, you don't want to know one of the pictures I saw)
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Post by polkadots on Mar 23, 2014 10:37:06 GMT -6
I think it was the ninja turtles really. I came to it late and even wrote my first fanfiction based on the 2003 show not too long after discovering such a thing existed online. It... was fun to write but it wasn't that good. And so many grammar mistakes among other things. Haha. It was Raph centric though which is odd because my favourite turtle was Leo. Still writing fanfiction helped me out in some ways english teachers never did when people critiqued it. They were actually really nice in offering me suggestions when it came to my errors!
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Post by polkadots on Mar 23, 2014 10:33:35 GMT -6
Welcome new people I have not welcomed yet! Hope you have fun.
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