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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 17:33:14 GMT -6
I'm not saying there is no room for him, obviously they can just make new things, I am saying that Mike and Sulley are the big sellers. Although were in a community of the hard core dedicated fans were not Disney's target market, they don't make the movie with our wants in mind, they do it for the kids, Mike and Sulley are the most recognizable after 2 movies, so that is what most kids want to buy toys of (they don't want the side characters or the villain, unless a unique case) Randall could be redeemed, but he wont become as close to Mike and Sulley as people are speculating he will, because they were sold as a duo, not a trio, like I said making them a trio would date their old toys, and ruin the consistency or their market. Cars 3 is an entire franchise that is probably one of Disney's most profitable markets (besides maybe Princesses and toy story), Randall would not generate much profit, and Monsters universe is hardly as popular as the Cars universe. Actually the Cars thing is very telling, Cars suck, critically Monsters is a better franchise, but Cars makes money because it appeals heavily to little boys, which is why we saw 2 Car movies and a spin off movie before we saw Monsters 2. Disney is like any other company, they exist to make a profit. Randall could turn good, I don't know, but I don't think the trio theory will come to be, but this is just my thoughts on it, again I dono and I hope if a movie does come out people get what they want from it. Then again, dating the old to push customers into buying new is what drives most of the market! But sure, the power trio theory is currently more of a wish rather than reality. I guess my point is that merchandising is independent of detailed story development. They can still sell tons of M+S merch regardless of other characters. Also, I don't think that all the recent merch with smiling bespectacled Randy ruined the consistency of their market The Cars 3 comment was actually a sarcastic remark to express my attitude towards Cars 2 I agree with your take on it, though. Dating is not a good thing, for example if a movie uses Myspace it is automatically dated, which is considered bad. People want their things to last through the ages, not to be next years trash. If they developed the trio as people seem to want most things would no longer be Mike and Sulley, they would be Mike, Sulley and Randall, which would contradict the marketing that was done thus far (and all figures where Randall was being villainous would be obsolete) , and it would be more expensive to make indevidual Mike, Sulley and Randall backpacks then it is to just make individual Mike and Sulley bags. I think it would be more likly that we see Randall's good side, but he would still be considered the antagonist over all. A lot of MU merch still goes with the idea that hes villainous, the Infinity set hes with the villians (even in advertisements he hangs with Syndrome and the others). I think his 'innocents' was more for comedy then it was suggesting he was going to get redemption (Which is why we saw so little innocent/glasses Randy. I doubt Pixar even planned out the next movie at all yet, just like they didn't plan out MU before MI, which is why there were so many plot holes) but I guess we will just need to see You don't like cars either? XDD
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 16:32:19 GMT -6
Hight can be found in MU Art of book, I am not home right now but once I get there I can take a picture of the heights for you.
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 16:17:51 GMT -6
Ok I have an idea, everyone pair up. Someone pick Pizza, someone pick Ice cream, then trade half of each with your partner! Win Win
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 16:13:59 GMT -6
I think that merchandising is totally unrelated to whether Randall could or couldn't get a redemption in a sequel. Sure, Mike and Sulley are the series' "trademark" monsters, but there's plenty of space for other characters as well. Think about all the toys and apparel featuring all of OKs, PNKs and RORs. Heck, I even have an official Randy Macbook sleeve. Also, if there's room for Cars 3, there's room for Randall as well! I'm not saying there is no room for him, obviously they can just make new things, I am saying that Mike and Sulley are the big sellers. Although were in a community of the hard core dedicated fans were not Disney's target market, they don't make the movie with our wants in mind, they do it for the kids, Mike and Sulley are the most recognizable after 2 movies, so that is what most kids want to buy toys of (they don't want the side characters or the villain, unless a unique case) Randall could be redeemed, but he wont become as close to Mike and Sulley as people are speculating he will, because they were sold as a duo, not a trio, like I said making them a trio would date their old toys, and ruin the consistency or their market. Cars 3 is an entire franchise that is probably one of Disney's most profitable markets (besides maybe Princesses and toy story), Randall would not generate much profit, and Monsters universe is hardly as popular as the Cars universe. Actually the Cars thing is very telling, Cars suck, critically Monsters is a better franchise, but Cars makes money because it appeals heavily to little boys, which is why we saw 2 Car movies and a spin off movie before we saw Monsters 2. Disney is like any other company, they exist to make a profit. Randall could turn good, I don't know, but I don't think the trio theory will come to be, but this is just my thoughts on it, again I dono and I hope if a movie does come out people get what they want from it.
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 14:58:06 GMT -6
Squishy. I mean, you turn your head and suddenly see his pale multi-eyed zombie face. That's enough to give me a heart attack! I agree with you here, what scares me are not sudden scares, but subtle, slow building scares, like.. a figure standing at the end of the hall, walking slowly towards you.. or Squishy, a figure being there, then suddenly gone, then closer, then gone, then beside you I guess since were not the monsters target age (I presume were not like.. Boo's age on here lol) we scare harder, so most of us require a build up like the adults in the cabin scene
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 14:47:34 GMT -6
AHHH I completely forgot Hardscrabble! She would scare me in two ways 1. Shes a giant centipede (design based off a poisonous one too!) 2. She would lecture me about my grades and make me cry She'd lecture me about the fact that I'm not planning on college and my high school grades until I cry and hide. I'm a bad student, don't yell at me, Hardscrabble. But remember, crying would alert the parents and expose the monster world and we can't have that. >.> Ohhh yeah, nothing scares young adults more then talk of their future plans and careers, we would all turn into bed wetters.
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 14:14:52 GMT -6
AHHH I completely forgot Hardscrabble! She would scare me in two ways 1. Shes a giant centipede (design based off a poisonous one too!) 2. She would lecture me about my grades and make me cry
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 14:07:31 GMT -6
ZimXDib from Invader Zim (Also PurpleXRed U///U) Double D X Kevin (Ed, Edd and Eddy) King Julian X Kowalski (Penguins of Madagascar) Kim/Ron (Kim possible)
It has been so long since I watched TV, so I am trying to remember what I use to watch XD
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 12:35:32 GMT -6
I know Randall got a lot of screen time in MI, he was the main antagonist after all and got the amount of screen time you would expect from the villain, and most if not all of his scenes were based around the fact that he was near Mike and Sulley at the time, which were the characters the cameras were following(figuratively). He was still not marketed nearly as much, I know because I break my back looking for Randall stuff and its not easy, yet you could get just about anything with Mike and Sulley, I have Mike and Sulley tooth brush's they are just that 'whored out' for lack of a better word lol MU had a lot of cameo's, and Randall did fatten the plot. Him being in it was not surprising, and he still had less screen time, which tells me he might just be getting phased out, like they are answering unanswered questions now so the next movie can have a new antagonist focus (If they even have an Anatagonist, since It could easily turn into an adventure, road trip movie where the elements are the 'antagonists') If there is a third movie with a villain then I think either Randall will be the main Villain again, or only have a cameo (maybe from jail, or he made a cozy living on some beach(this is a children's comedy after all) and will give a little insight on maps or humans, then be written out. But again this is only what I think, I wont be mad if Randall does find some sort of redemption, I am just cautious about how they would work a plot like that, not that they couldn't or wont. I'm far from expecting or even wanting redemption for him. I just want him to be in there because I like him the best. Even a funny cameo will please me PFFTT who am I kidding even if they mention him I will be pleased. That's not to say I won't go and see the movie if he's not in it because I still love Monsters as a whole he just happens to be my favorite because... I don't even know why. ohhh man, you don't need to worry about that I don't think XD I am sure Randall will be in it, its like a trend they set up now, I bet George will make an appearance too, and Roz of course. I would not mind Randy getting as much time as he had in MI. I actually just had this idea where they make a human the villain.. so maybe Randall will be nicer, I am just not sold on him making thw power trio, no matter how satisfying and lovely the art/fanfics are of it *u* I was the same way with Kung fu panda 2 (or at least I will be once the next movie gets out!!) any mention of Shen will have me climbing the walls XD Though I don't have much hope for him returning U_U But I did buy the DS game, only because he was mentioned!
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 11:48:22 GMT -6
lol I don't think he will be in it much, the MU/MI films are marketed mainly with Mike and Sulley as a duo, I don't think they would stray from that path, I am guessing the nexed film will be equally about the two, or they will do another Sulley movie, with the intention of repeating the pattern. I think Randall will be in a new film for the same amount of time as in MU, a small side plot, maybe less. If they wanted to do a three group franchise they missed their opportunity, Randall was never marketed as heavily as Sulley or Mike, and even in the infinity set hes sold with the Villains, I think he may return as the Villain again. I agree with you here, its not that people (or monsters) can't make more friends, its more a marketing thing, Sull and Mike are on everything together, backpacks, notebooks, everything. It would just be an odd strategy for him to be added so late in the game, and all the merch with him being villainy would instantly be out dated. To be honest he actually got quite a bit of screen time in MI I know this because I can't put the freaking thing on and get on with another task because Randall keeps popping up and distracting me, not only that but he actually was kinda a massive plot point in the first one and like others have said he didn't even need to be in MU but for some reason he still is. I know Randall got a lot of screen time in MI, he was the main antagonist after all and got the amount of screen time you would expect from the villain, and most if not all of his scenes were based around the fact that he was near Mike and Sulley at the time, which were the characters the cameras were following(figuratively). He was still not marketed nearly as much, I know because I break my back looking for Randall stuff and its not easy, yet you could get just about anything with Mike and Sulley, I have Mike and Sulley tooth brush's they are just that 'whored out' for lack of a better word lol MU had a lot of cameo's, and Randall did fatten the plot. Him being in it was not surprising, and he still had less screen time, which tells me he might just be getting phased out, like they are answering unanswered questions now so the next movie can have a new antagonist focus (If they even have an Anatagonist, since It could easily turn into an adventure, road trip movie where the elements are the 'antagonists') If there is a third movie with a villain then I think either Randall will be the main Villain again, or only have a cameo (maybe from jail, or he made a cozy living on some beach(this is a children's comedy after all) and will give a little insight on maps or humans, then be written out. But again this is only what I think, I wont be mad if Randall does find some sort of redemption, I am just cautious about how they would work a plot like that, not that they couldn't or wont.
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 4:33:16 GMT -6
What do you look like? Do you have wings? fangs? breath fire? breath under water? Details man!
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 4:30:49 GMT -6
Thanks You should upload some stuff too! Your art is amazing
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 4:29:07 GMT -6
Yess Cosplay! I made this God awful Randall sweater the night before MU was coming out XD its so embarrassing but its Randy soo gotta wear it U3U
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 4:26:17 GMT -6
I feel horns are like teeth to us. We out grow our baby teeth and then we grow our permanent teeth. That's how I see the horns. They lose them once as a kid, then they grow their permanent horns. I also feel like the sensitivity in horns don't kick in until puberty. Each monster is different when it comes to sensitivity. In Johnny's case, touch can set him off in a sexual way. (boom shakalaka, Johnny~ >.>) If one were to break, it would be permanent and never grow back unless they get one made out of metal or steel or something along those lines. Kinda like a prosthetic. Poor Johnny! You be careful with your horns there buddy XD I am not sure what my opinion is on shedding yet, but I do agree that they are sensitive, which most monsters would not guess he does not want monsters using it against him. Any opinions on Sulley's horns? while we are on the ultra specific horn subject? XD (Maybe I should make a similar post in the Sulley forum? XD)
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 18, 2014 4:21:33 GMT -6
Well you guys asked for it... so here you go! First off here's ALL of my plushies! Most of them are from MU but some of them I've owned since the original movie came out. Here's a close-up of all the Oozma Kappa guys. Next up are the ROR boys. Those glasses Randy is wearing I made myself out of pipe cleaners and cardboard. Here we have JOX. Brock, Claire and Archie. And here are all of the plushies I've owned since the original movie came out. And here's all my books and my pencilcase. My MU cap! My MU varsity jacket! And finally for the hell of it my Disney Infinity figures. Thats a bad ass collection! Deff have a lot of thing I don't own U_U Been looking everywhere for those specific Johnny and Roy plush! I will have to put together some of my things if I get the time, but it might not be for a month or so (just about to head into finals D:)
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