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Post by Calcilum on Mar 19, 2014 18:08:09 GMT -6
Which one do you think is better?
Well in my opinion, I prefer Pixar, their movies are just so much more heartwarming than Dreamwork's.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 19:02:58 GMT -6
When it comes to animation, Pixar. But I do like the live action movies that they make at Dreamworks more than animations they make at Pixar. Dreamworks animations, I couldn't care less for XP
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 19, 2014 20:11:58 GMT -6
I might get mob attacked for saying it... but I prefer Dreamworks over all SO sorry! But I find they take more risks then Pixar and that gets really high points with me, plus I do love their animation, the Croods, kung fu panda 1 and 2 were gorgeous, with a number of different types of animation throughout them.
(Also I kinda see Pixar and Disney in the same boat here, so of course my opinion is not an entirely fair one, Disney is about changing to be better, while Dreamworks focus's more on loving yourself the way you are, with more variation in character designs (they are not afraid to make girls who are broader or uglyer compared to social norms, same with men, sometimes the man is weaker then the woman, or smarter and vise versa. Of course, since they take risks not all their movies succeed, but its better then doing the same plot over and over with minor variations (Sorry, small attack on the Disney Princess franchise) They're are some Pixar movies I like more then Dreamworks movies, I don't judge movies by the companies. But over all I find Dreamworks has more surprises, and shows themes/lessons that I don't often see.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 16:50:24 GMT -6
Of course, since they take risks not all their movies succeed, but its better then doing the same plot over and over with minor variations (Sorry, small attack on the Disney Princess franchise) I'm sorry to say that I have to disagree with you on this particular sentence. After watching the Croods a few days ago, I was a little disappointed in Dreamworks because the characters in that movie were pretty similar to the different characters in HTTYD. For example, Guy was definitely a lot like Hiccup, Grug was a lot like Stoick, Thunk was a lot like Fishlegs, etc. It could just be the person that made both those movies, but still, I don't see dreamworks characters as being that unique.
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Post by toxicdolls on Mar 20, 2014 17:35:05 GMT -6
Of course, since they take risks not all their movies succeed, but its better then doing the same plot over and over with minor variations (Sorry, small attack on the Disney Princess franchise) I'm sorry to say that I have to disagree with you on this particular sentence. After watching the Croods a few days ago, I was a little disappointed in Dreamworks because the characters in that movie were pretty similar to the different characters in HTTYD. For example, Guy was definitely a lot like Hiccup, Grug was a lot like Stoick, Thunk was a lot like Fishlegs, etc. It could just be the person that made both those movies, but still, I don't see dreamworks characters as being that unique. I guess we see the movies differently, honestly I don't see very many similarities between HTTYD and the Croods, at least nothing you can't also accuse Disney and Pixar for.
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Post by royogrowlahan on Mar 21, 2014 19:02:09 GMT -6
I might get mob attacked for saying it... but I prefer Dreamworks over all SO sorry! But I find they take more risks then Pixar and that gets really high points with me, plus I do love their animation, the Croods, kung fu panda 1 and 2 were gorgeous, with a number of different types of animation throughout them. (Also I kinda see Pixar and Disney in the same boat here, so of course my opinion is not an entirely fair one, Disney is about changing to be better, while Dreamworks focus's more on loving yourself the way you are, with more variation in character designs (they are not afraid to make girls who are broader or uglyer compared to social norms, same with men, sometimes the man is weaker then the woman, or smarter and vise versa. Of course, since they take risks not all their movies succeed, but its better then doing the same plot over and over with minor variations (Sorry, small attack on the Disney Princess franchise) They're are some Pixar movies I like more then Dreamworks movies, I don't judge movies by the companies. But over all I find Dreamworks has more surprises, and shows themes/lessons that I don't often see. This. I do agree, now that i pay attention to it Dreamworks does indeed but more variety in certain character designs in more movies. I can totally see that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 19:36:15 GMT -6
They're both not without their flaws. However...Dreamworks has an "underdog does the impossible" formula for pretty much every animated movie they make, and it can get pretty old real quick. So I think Pixar leads in storytelling. Dreamworks smokes them in art and animation, though. I mean, Monsters University was really well done artistically, but Dreamworks could have rendered it a lot better.
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Post by Calcilum on Mar 29, 2014 16:48:35 GMT -6
I actually think that dreamworks rendering is alot lower than pixar's. I feel like Dreamwork's doesn't put that much effort in the movies most of the time, well with the expectation of the kung fu panda movies and Shrek 1&2. Pixar seems to put so much more in perfecting every single detail to make it more realistic. Most movies I seen from Dreamworks feels so flat to me... Don't get me wrong, I love dreamworks, but their movie quality concerning animation and storing writing as a whole can range from, bad to excellent. While pixar's films can range from average to brilliant. I actually heard that Pixar does have the ability to make things much more realistic, but they intentionally lower their rendering abilities to give it that more comfortable cartoonish look.
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Post by RantingRandall on Mar 29, 2014 17:04:03 GMT -6
I actually think that dreamworks rendering is alot lower than pixar's. I feel like Dreamwork's doesn't put that much effort in the movies most of the time, well with the expectation of the kung fu panda movies and Shrek 1&2. Pixar seems to put so much more in perfecting every single detail to make it more realistic. Most movies I seen from Dreamworks feels so flat to me... Don't get me wrong, I love dreamworks, but their movie quality concerning animation and storing writing as a whole can range from, bad to excellent. While pixar's films can range from average to brilliant. I actually heard that Pixar does have the ability to make things much more realistic, but they intentionally lower their rendering abilities to give it that more comfortable cartoonish look. You are right. A thing to remember is that most if not all animation studios, including those who do CGI for live-action movies (WETA, ILM etc.), use Pixar's software. Dreamworks is no exception. So yeah, Pixar can make photorealistic animation (and, in The Blue Umbrella, they basically did). Speaking of animation, MU used a new "Global Illumination "raytracing lighting technology that IMHO is the most photo-realistic lighting ever in a CG animated movie.
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Post by AnthroOphidian on Mar 29, 2014 17:15:43 GMT -6
Interesting: didn't realize that Pixar's software (think it was called Renderman?) was that popular among film developers, as I had never heard of it until visiting Pixar's website. Regardless, if they're the ones who made it, then obviously they have the most experience with it.
Still, at this point in time, I'm not sure which my bias is towards. I loved Monsters University for Randy's role, but his beginning was something that was already beaten by Dreamworks many years before: that things are not always what they are on the surface, and that people are not born evil. On the other hand, Dreamworks has had a history of ripping off of Pixar, and some of the stories and graphics could've been better as well (how Madagascar even got a Nicktoon is beyond me).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 17:45:45 GMT -6
Disney is about changing to be better, while Dreamworks focus's more on loving yourself the way you are I've actually been thinking about this a lot, and really don't see that at all. I have a few resent examples that I can remember more vividly than other. So in Wreck-it-Ralph, the story had a lot to do with the protagonist dealing with his view of himself, but in the end (spoilers) he was content with who he was and never really changed except for the fact that he found a way to be happy with who he always was. Then, in a more popular one, Frozen, Elsa also wants to seem like someone she's not, but later on, we find that she's in the same boat as Ralph and she discovers a way to be happy with who she is and what she can do. That also applies with MU which is in fact a Pixar movie. It doesn't seem like it at first glance, but Mike didn't really change at all. He may have changed his thought process, but that didn't really affect who he was. After all, everyone knew he wasn't scary, and in the end he still wasn't scary, he figured that out through someone else, sully, who helped Mike discover that he need to find a calling in which he could properly fit into. I'm sorry to disagree with you again, and you still don't have to change your mind if you don't want to '^^
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Post by savefearow on Mar 29, 2014 20:38:10 GMT -6
I think 'changing yourself to be better' is actually a more common theme in Don Bluth movies. All Dogs Go To Heaven: Charlie learns to care about Anne-Marie, to be more honest, to take responsibility, and to value someone else's life about his own. In the beginning he just saw Anne-Marie for her potential to make money, he didn't care whether he lied as long as he was having fun, and he was VERY specific about not wanting to die.
The Land Before Time: Cera learns to be less haughty and to accept help from others, not just ridicule their ideas. Petrie has to let go his fear of flying in order to help his friends. Littlefoot has to learn to accept his mother's death and not blame the victim. (He does not have this discouraged attitude for too long, but he does go through a period of grief and depression.) Littlefoot also has to learn to open himself up to friendships again, since he rebuffs Ducky the first time she greets him.
Anastasia: Dmitri learns about honesty and love through his interactions with Anya. Anya learns to stop thinking about the past and to enjoy the present. To a lesser extent, Bartok realizes he doesn't want to work with Rasputin if it means killing anyone and quits a life of villainy. They don't spend as much time on his epiphany, though.
An American Tail: There's an overall message about not giving up hope, but it's more Papa Mousekewitz who needs to learn the lesson as he refuses to believe Fievel could have survived being washed overboard. It's only when he sees Fievel's hat that he FINALLY is willing to hope for the best, instead of thinking that looking for Fievel is a lost cause. The family is only reunited when Papa sincerely contributes to the search, by playing his violin again so Fievel can follow the sound back.
There may be more examples of this in other films, but I do think Don Bluth movies especially tended to emphasize personal growth and maturity, rather than have characters stick to a certain viewpoint throughout the films.
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Post by derringdont on Mar 30, 2014 2:54:11 GMT -6
Pixar has better animation, and on average I guess that Pixar's movies are of higher quality, but Dreamworks is a lot more progressive! As mentioned before, Kung Fu Panda and Kung Fu Panda 2 are amazing. Did you know that Kung Fu Panda 2 is the highest grossing film ever directed by a woman? Jennifer Yuh Nelson's achievement is particularly impressive when you consider that she's a woman of color, given that Hollywood is astoundingly sexist and racist. And have you seen Turbo!? Turbo is really obviously a transgender narrative, given the whole thing with Turbo's name, and Chet insisting that liking racing was unnatural for a snail, and Paz was originally going to be canonically a trans woman! Turbo is so important! Also, a much larger proportion of the cast than in most movies for the Kung Fu Panda movies and Turbo are POC. Wile I concede that in general Pixar has higher quality in animation and writing, and fewer of their movies are flops, Dreamworks definitely deserves recognition!
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Post by savefearow on Mar 30, 2014 19:58:36 GMT -6
Pixar has better animation, and on average I guess that Pixar's movies are of higher quality, but Dreamworks is a lot more progressive! As mentioned before, Kung Fu Panda and Kung Fu Panda 2 are amazing. Did you know that Kung Fu Panda 2 is the highest grossing film ever directed by a woman? Jennifer Yuh Nelson's achievement is particularly impressive when you consider that she's a woman of color, given that Hollywood is astoundingly sexist and racist. And have you seen Turbo!? Turbo is really obviously a transgender narrative, given the whole thing with Turbo's name, and Chet insisting that liking racing was unnatural for a snail, and Paz was originally going to be canonically a trans woman! Turbo is so important! Also, a much larger proportion of the cast than in most movies for the Kung Fu Panda movies and Turbo are POC. Wile I concede that in general Pixar has higher quality in animation and writing, and fewer of their movies are flops, Dreamworks definitely deserves recognition! Wow. I really like the Kung Fu Panda series, and thought KFP 2 managed to improve on an already good franchise but I didn't know it was the highest grossing film directed by a woman. I haven't seen Turbo yet, but I heard good things about it so it's on our Netflix queue. I don't remember what studio made Robots (CGI film starring Robin Williams) but it had a trans character in it (a male robot is given a female body at one point and embraces the change.) I'll look to see if Robots is on Netflix too because it's been years since I saw it and I don't recall all the plot points.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 17:18:56 GMT -6
Although they both have their virtues, I find myself enjoying Pixar movies more often than Dreamworks. So, Pixar for me. Can't say I've enjoyed every Pixar movie I've ever watched, but Dreamworks, in my opinion, seems to be more "hit or miss."
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